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Why facebook has a group Buzzvines.

  Some has made a group on facebook buzzvines ..Just for fun.

                     I would like to know whats the purpose of making such group on facebook.

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Most of the things in life are done without purpose. This also includes the creation of this world by God.

No doc!! You are mistaken that this world is created just for no reason. some how if you cannot figure out then God cannot be blamed for your in competence...

ALLAH says in Quran

      "Its ALLAH who has created life n death to know which one of you is better in faith"

       That was the answer to the question why ALLAH wants us to be here in this world and ALLAH did not create anything with out purpose so ALLAH created everything in this world for us which is in use by us and we are in the examination hall of this world.

                Jaisa karoo gay waisa bharooo gay

               Kar k daikh looo Janat bhi hai jahanum bhi hai mar k daikh loo.

   ALLAH also says in quran tht we have created JINNS and Human beings so tht they

   might worship ALLAH. So there is purpose of creation of every thing .Everything

 ALLAH does is full of wisdom. (hikma)

Well I mean is that what was the need of creation of this world when everything was fine up there. Why we are made to suffer all our lives struggling and in the end go up there again. I frankly consider the creation of this whole circus as a mistake.

Lol Intresting thoughts doc there are very few people in the world who would say that the creation of this world was a mistake or every thing was created with out a purpose.

Let me put in simple terms Taimur.. what Doc wants to know is why God created this world to test humans for the deeds or misdeeds. Why does he want to test humans whether they commit a mistake or pass the test? Is God bored?

:)

Exactly Postman. Born, being raised, study, marry, job, children, their marriage and then death. What a waste. Simpley meaningless creation.

Why do u come out of Vidya Balan's fantacies? Please stay there and life will be more meaningful.

Ye aai na Doc ki amma.. usko samjhanay ko.

Doc Gee!!!! Nothing really goes waste my dear.. you are put to test for feew years and in return depending how you perform - you are promised an eternal life -

Now its our choice whether we strive for eden or hell

remember its eternal life at both the abodes - i think its the best deal we can get anyways fair and squre.

- Now its our choice whether we strive for eden or hell....Hell will be much more interesting.

- Why do u come out of Vidya Balan's fantacies? Please stay there and life will be more meaningful.........................Kya Yaad Kara Dya. Kaaaaaaasssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh

 Now its our choice whether we strive for eden or hell....Hell will be much more interesting

Doc teray demagh main keera hai - Lol

Sir we will get BURQA wali's in Janat. I prefer the other Lot. Hell suits me better.

lol doc - well spoken.  I'd prefer that too, but I am anyways destined for hell, just coz I'm a damned idol worshipper :-)

Which "idol" are you worshiping. My "idol" is my hamsai :-)

lol you should watch ishiqia.  Vidya Balan is worthy of being worshipped ;-)

Doc must be joking there about going to hell and  on a serious note every one would be burning in hell firez and no one will in his senses to see all those pretty woman in the hell firez but i must give him credit for getting this out befair.

lol doc - well spoken.  I'd prefer that too, but I am anyways destined for hell, just coz I'm a damned idol worshipper :-)

  Just coz i m a damned idol worshipper ....Lol

       one should worship only one unseen god and any one who associates partners with one god is called Shirk which is the biggest sin.

  Its starnge that the guy who knows the truth and is not accepting the truth and thats what Kafir is one who hides the truth.

- Vidya Balan has won the award for number one actress this year.

-  Doc must be joking there about going to hell ........... Not at all. I prefer it over heaven, full of burqa clad ninja turtles.

 

 

OK going to hell firez not joking........

          Why don't you choose heaven doc there must be 70 virgins waiting for you in heaven who look better then Vidya Balan.Its a strange choice.

70?! I thought types like you Taimur got 72?!

72 extra virgin sir why would i get extra two?

because you deserve them? :)

Thank s Postman. wow my 72 virgins in heaven. You deserve more then 72 u deserve a hundred virgins in heaven.

Na I think I'll pass :p

I don't have that strength to 'deal' with so many :p

By the way is that Vidya Balan a virgin? Nah i don't think so coz no actress in indian and Pakistani film industry is a virgin.Do we have any method to test Vidya's virginity doc .

OO come on postman when will enter heaven u will eat fresh food of heaven and breath in fresh air of heaven and then u will get strenght to deal with more then 100.

 

really?! damn :p

Just a small information for you taimur.. Quran never says 'females', 'hoors as in females' in quran. It only says 'pure companions' Azwajjum mutaharat. e.g.

2:25 - But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their
portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits
therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are
given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they
abide therein (for ever).

Pure companions for Males and Females. So I do not think you should look purely from 'sex' point of view. For example.

37:45 - A bowl shall be made to go round them from water running out of springs,

37:46 - White, delicious to those who drink.

37:47 - There shall be no trouble in it, nor shall they be exhausted therewith.

37:48 - And with them shall be those (companions) who restrain the eyes, having beautiful eyes;

and there is no mention of 70 or 72 virgins in Quran.

Lol

Ok sir i was just kiddin who cares about virgins any way.

- Why don't you choose heaven doc there must be 70 virgins waiting for
you in heaven who look better then Vidya Balan.Its a strange choice...................Virgin's need to be taught how to make love. I prefer the ones already knowing the art of Kama Sutra.

- By the way is that Vidya Balan a virgin?......... Approximately.

- Nah i don't think so coz no
actress in indian and Pakistani film industry is a virgin........How many have you checked?

- Do we have
any method to test Vidya's virginity doc ..................... Yes. I have an instrument which can check that :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

 

Nah Vidya Balan is not a virgin i bet what do u mean by approximately a girl is either a virgin or not a virgin wht do u mean  doc?

Just like being "approximately pregnant" ...:-))))))))))))))))

Buddy Taimur,

I am sorry I didnt cater to people like you when I used the words "Damned Idol Worshipper" in jest.  I should have realized that you wouldnt understand the obvious direction of the conversation :-)

Anyways, to cater specifically to your conjectures about your religion being the only one and all others being false, let me ask you a few questions:

I understand that Islam is the biggest religion in terms of quantity (not quality obviously), but it is still not an overwhelming majority.  Say 35% of the world population is muslim, another 30% is christian and the remaining 35% comprise hindus, buddhists, atheists etc etc etc.  So, your Allah created 65% of the world's population in a faith that will lead them to eternal damnation.  Who is to blame for this ?  To give you an example, if a mother brings her child to the Taliban fold, WILLINGLY leaves her child there to be with them for the first 20 or so years of his life, and then condemns the child because he is now a talib, who is to blame, the mother ? or the child ?  I would blame the mother, because she, WILLINGLY left her child to the taliban.

So you really think that there could be a god that chose 35% of his own creation to rule the other 65% and also that god will torture 65% of his own creation until eternity for something that he himself made them into ?? that surely doesnt sound like a god to me !!

I am only talking of the basic logic that I can come up with.  I am not even getting into the quran where there are verses which simply cannot be the words of a loving and merciful god..

Think, taimurbhai.  Dont just pickle your brain for use in your afterlife with virgins.

 So you really think that there could be a god that chose 35% of his own creation to rule the other 65% and also that god will torture 65% of his own creation until eternity for something that he himself made them into ?? that surely doesnt sound like a god to me .

what do u mean by some thing he himslef made them into ??god has given free will to everyone and god will not punish all that 65 % of creation for nothing as

ALLAH says in Quran Chapter no 2 verse 256

                    

There is no compulsion in religion; no doubt the virtuous path has become clearly distinct from the erring; then whoso does not accept devil and believes in Allah, he grasped a very firm knot which is never to open and Allah Hears and Knows.

 

  and chapter no 2 verse 257

 All?h is the Wal? (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He brings them out from darkness into light. But as for those who disbelieve, their Auliy? (supporters and helpers) are T?gh?t [false deities and false leaders, etc.], they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will abide therein forever.

  So these two verese la iqra fideen (no compulsion on religion answers your above questions.

WHAT IS YOUR CONCEPT OF GOD BEFAIR IF THT DOES'T SOUND LIKE GOD TO YOU.Who sounds like god to you?

To give you an example, if a mother brings her child to the Taliban fold, WILLINGLY leaves her child there to be with them for the first 20 or so years of his life, and then condemns the child because he is now a talib, who is to blame, the mother ? or the child ?  I would blame the mother, because she, WILLINGLY left her child to the taliban

                  Yes me too i would blame the mother too in that case but you can not blame god for that and the above two verses i quoted answers you questions.

  am only talking of the basic logic that I can come up with.  I am not even getting into the quran where there are verses which simply cannot be the words of a loving and merciful god.

                               For example which ones  can you quote a few verses from Quran tht proves tht god is not loving or merciful i would like to know.

Let me repeat the two situations again and you can tell me how they are different:

1 - A mother WILLINGLY leaves her infant son with the taliban and he grows up to be one  of them.  The mother then condemns her son for being part of the taliban.

2 - God WILLINGLY creates 65% of the world's population in faiths other than islam and then condemns them to eternal torture for being non muslims

In both cases, there supposedly is "FREE WILL".  In the first case, if you blame the mother, then how can you not blame Allah in the second ??

Lets sort this out first and then we can get to the verses :-)

 

1 - A mother WILLINGLY leaves her infant son with the taliban and he grows up to be one  of them.  The mother then condemns her son for being part of the taliban.

2 - God WILLINGLY creates 65% of the world's population in faiths other than islam and then condemns them to eternal torture for being non muslims

                          Yes in that  situation the mother leaves her son with the taliban by free will so the mother  is responsible for tht and i would blame the mother too BUT in the other case every child is born innocent and is a muslim and now its up to the parents of that child wiether they make him a hindu,christan,sikh or an athiest.So its different because god did not get them in tht situation.To every soul ALLAH shows his signs untill its clear to them tht there is no god but ALLAH.Hindus christan and every person from any religion says there is one god and they associate partners with one god.Like hindus worship so many gods and godesses along with one god i think they call it Pram atma now thats the thing they will be punished for.

If Hindus believe there is one god then why do they associate so many partners with them and do idol worship.What if your son calls you father and also calls a dozen other men his father how would you react to that? Similarly all those 65 persect will be punished for associating partners with ALLAH.

Read the verses above  Chapter no 2 verse 256 and 257 from quran.

 

@befair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzQIKVZ5Yt4    

        Watch this video

 

"every child is born innocent and is a muslim and now its up to the parents of that child wiether they make him a hindu,christan,sikh or an athiest.So its different because god did not get them in tht situation"

There are two issues with this statement:
1 - If the child is born innocent and it is the parents that inculcate religious values in the child, then why blame the child for being what he/she is ? why should the child go to hell for something that his parents/community have taught him/her ? and why even blame the parents - after all, they were brought up as non muslims too by their parents.  If you follow this chain up, you will ultimately get to the first "non muslim" which incidentally is way before islam was "revealed".  So, again it boils down to Allah's fault for an imperfect and polarized creation in the first place

2 - If it is your allah that creates children, why is he giving them to non muslim families ? why not stop the cycle of birth in those "infidel" families/communities whom your allah hates so much ? why not just give kids to muslim families only ?

If my son calls me father and also calls a dozen other people father, i can prove to him that I am the one that provides his genes.  Can you prove in any way that everything around us has been created by Allah and allah only ??

In the same breath, I would like to ask you why did your Allah create man and woman ? isnt that itself a contradiction of the "follow one only" principle ? arent children supposed to follow both their parents who are different individuals ? If the "Follow one only" principle was what your allah intended, then he should not have created man and woman, rather, he should have created just man or just woman and we would all reproduce the Amoeba way, perfect clones of each other !!!

 

If my son calls me father and also calls a dozen other people father, i can prove to him that I am the one that provides his genes.  Can you prove in any way that everything around us has been created by Allah and allah only ??

         Befair there is some one who created every thing who is the creator of every thing no one or every thing came in existence by its own with out a creator?Is that possible what do you say ?

ALLAH says in Quran 

  “Soon will We show them our signs in the furthest horizons, and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this
     is the Truth…”
(41: 53) +

ALLAH says in Quran.

O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allah), Who created you and those who were before you so that you may acquire taqwa (piety).

                 

Who has made the earth a resting place for you, and the sky as a canopy, and sent down water (rain) from the sky and brought forth therewith fruits as a provision for you. Then do not set up rivals unto Allah (in worship) while you know (that He alone has the right to be worshipped."

Qur’an, 2:21-22

              ALLAH says in Quran

surely We created you out of dust, then of a sperm-drop, then of a leech-like clot, then out of a lump of flesh,  formed and unformed, that We may make clearer (Our signs) to you; and We establish in the wombs what We will, till a stated term, then We deliver you as infants, then that you may come of age; and some of you die, and some of you are kept back unto the vilest state of life, that after knowing, they may know nothing…”  (22: 5)

ALLAH says in quran

"And among the mountains are streaks white and red, of varying colours and (others) very black. And likewise, men and ad-Dawwabb (moving, living creatures, beasts) and cattle are of various colours. It is only those who have knowledge among His servants that fear Allah." (35:27-28)

              

  Even after proving that to him tht ur his father he keeps calling all those two dozen men his father in one way or the other will you punish him for tht or stop calling him your son or what would you do .Thats what those people are doing n thats wht they will be punished for.

 

In the same breath, I would like to ask you why did your Allah create man and woman ? isnt that itself a contradiction of the "follow one only" principle ? arent children supposed to follow both their parents who are different individuals ? If the "Follow one only" principle was what your allah intended, then he should not have created man and woman, rather, he should have created just man or just woman and we would all reproduce the Amoeba way, perfect clones of each other !!!`

   I will  answer that question n all ur above questions  later but first tell me how your religion (hindusim ) answers the same question about god the same question u have been asking me.

- I would like to ask you why did your Allah create man and woman ?..............To create babies.

lol, if that was the case, we, like animals would be "in heat" only once a year or so... but apparently we are "ever ready"..so there has to be a naughty purpose as well :-)

Yes there is a purpose of creation.

     http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/PurposeOfCreation.htm

               Purpose of creation by Ali Sina.

lol, Taimur, it's funny to see people like you quote the quran to somehow prove the existence and supremacy of allah over all else.  Whenever a question is asked "What is the proof that Allah created the universe" you come up with a quote saying "we created the universe...blah blah etc"  :-)

If, after all proof, my son still doesnt recognize me as his father, I'll disown him, not kill him or torture him.  You have to understand that respect and love have to be commanded, not demanded.  Only submission can be demanded, which is the basic meaning of islam.

I see that among all these quotes, you havent answered my question about who is to blame for 65% of the world's population being eternally damned for being non muslims - still waiting.........

I dont think I have ever said that spirituality is the exclusive realm of hinduism.  I have never said that all non hindus will go to hell just because they are non hindus.  Exclusivity can only foster intolerance and this is obvious in today's islam. 

Create babies once a year and rst of the year enjoy the passion. This is the meaning of life and the reason for our creation.

Taimur,

 You picked the wrong site to pick a link from.  You should have read the entire text of the link before posting it.

 

 

If, after all proof, my son still doesnt recognize me as his father, I'll disown him, not kill him or torture him.  You have to understand that respect and love have to be commanded, not demanded.  Only submission can be demanded, which is the basic meaning of islam.

 see that among all these quotes, you havent answered my question about who is to blame for 65% of the world's population being eternally damned for being non muslims - still waiting.........

Yes ur right thats why there is NO   compulsion on religion and that answers the question of 65% population .Respect n love must be commanded, not demanded.

Islam means total submission to one god mighty and merciful and quran also says there is NO  compulsion on religion.Its every ones free will to follow any religion. ALLAH shows  his signs to every soul untill its clear to them tht there is no god but ALLAH.

The Quran states ;  “Those who reject our signs, We shall cast into the fire; as often as their skins are roasted through.  We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the punishment; for Allah is Exalted in power; Wise.” ( 4:56)