Taliban Phenomeon
submitted 10 months 24 days 2 hours ago by: MSEhsan : 17 commentsNow a days most popular Buzz is Taliban, as like any other buzz taking full advantage of this word every single evil doing / personal failure is attributed to this word.
From terrorism to economic recession,
Failure of Pakistan’s foreign policy to worth less performance of our so called Democratic Political parties.
Attack on Sri Lankan cricket team to Losing cricket match to Australia.
At local level people are using this term to label and settle scores with their opponents. So on and so forth.
On the whole TALIBAN is good scapegoat for every body.
I believe its high time to identify this phenomenon, Who they are? Where do they come from and where they are residing? What is their ideology? How they can be identified? What are their motives? Finally how capable are they in posing any threat to Pakistan?
MSEhsan
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Here comes another sympathiser
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Next time if anybody criticises Punjab police some morons will consider it sympathising with the criminals.
Do not post if healthy discussion can not be taken up by you.
Sleep tight do not hurt your pea size brain.
Its not the size of the brain but use of it that must concern one.
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Lets use the brain in a positive manner and discuss the said issue with some logic and facts so that common person could benefit from it
Lets then start with following:
http://www.chowk.com/articles/whats-wrong-with-imran-khan-hasan-shakoor.htm
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American cities were attacked, Saudi nationals were accused, Osama bin laden was declared their leader, Taliban of Afghanistan were found guilty of supporting OBL.
Pakistan was given one way to choose out of 2, the end of both ways was designed to be the same.
America and Europe raided afghanistan, Pakistan with vaccume of leadership was most vulnerable to be influenced by the Taliban leadership and ideology.
Therefore local taliban movement was designed, agents in media were prepared to malign Taliban and Islamic shariyah, liberal though innocent pakistanis joined them, pictures of women burned with acid and flogged by so called taliban were publicised, elements of Taliban with boxed knowledge of their Sect provided support to westernized media, and currently opinion is being developed among Pakistanis that taliban and Islamic Shariya both belong to prehistoric times, live in frozen times and have nothing to do with Modern Pakistan. Anything done or said bad by a bearded person is therefore floated as an additional attrocity by Taliban.
No one is ashamed over the lie of United states of america about being attacked, and no one is ashamed to having not justifying the authicity of the flogging video, but they have been used to utter nonsense against Islamic law and forget taliban, Islam is the target of all of this lie game.
JAM- I think there could be no better reply than yours.
I am surprised to learn that majority of people do not have any knowledge about Talibans neither any knowledge of their geographical placement / history. yet they are busy in propagating their half cooked claims. such people have turned their eyes blind towards the atrocities committed by co called Champions of Human Rights ( case of Doctor Aafia is worth mentioning – where as many more needs reporting).
West has always used the media campaign to malign their opponents. On one side they criticize certain groups on the other hand they reinforce them through every covert means- while our people have failed to realize the actual characters
Presently our Friends doctrine revolves and is bent upon targeting ISLAM in one way or the other. First it was weapons of mass destruction then Al Qaida and OBL, later Taliban – now it is PAKISTAN.
So, msehsan,
are you denying that america was attacked ? or are you subscribing to the theory that it was really the jews and buddhists that brought down the world trade center
are you also denying that pakistan had a majority hand in creating the taliban (with american money and stinger missiles) or do you believe that the taliban was actually created by hindus to malign the good name of islam ?
Of course the flogging video was a fake. It was just an excerpt from the latest walt disney movie that is yet to be released.
Acid being thrown on women in afghanistan/pakistan was actually also untrue. These folks were really hindus playing holi...and the red color was not blood, it was gulaal (red vegetable dye used during holi play)
Al Qaida is a fictitious organization. It is actually run by the sri lankan cricket team who, by the way staged their attack on themselves!
let me know if I have missed any other "untrue" statements here
Some people just like to keep their heads buried in sand. How many more Pakistanis do you propose must die before we can finally decide to eliminate threat of Taliban?
America did this they did that, & how does any of what they did wrong can justify what Taliban are doing to poor Pakistani civilians? Every single evil that may be happening anywhere in the world, you name it and Taliban has done it. I have no doubt in my mind that they must now be eliminated.
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My friends,
Lets not get carried away, plz no accusation just for the sake of them. Any body can give a long list of accusations in return– lets talk some facts and figures if you have any.
All I want you is to answer my questions about Taliban- What they have done or are doing is the next argument, for that every body is free to make his judgment. Lets talk about their history. To plead your case you folks plz come up with logics…OK.
If for a moment they are problematic for us then SIR it is our problem not of America or West.
What are they doing in the region for the last one decade or so - ? Who is the alien force ?
Who’s presence is adding fuel to your problems?
Why the self declared wizards are blinded folded over the issue of Balochistan, Karachi?
Why these lunatics are baffled over the role of our hostile countries ? so and so forth…
If for a moment lets agree with you that Talibans are savage they are most uncivilized, uneducated and belong to stone age period …………
Then how come these stone age people can pose a threat to America or West ( thousand miles away) ? They do not have any resources as such neither intellectual brain then why this hue and cry?
To refresh your memory, four five years back SWAT Valley was one of the most popular tourist attraction. We all know that to flourish tourism, peace and tranquility are the pre-requisites for any area.
Now what has changed? Had those courteous people left the valley or they are deliberately portrayed as undesired/ unwarranted?
For any uniformed person Sufi Muhammad’s struggle for Shariah extends over more than thirty five years. Yes – may be some of you are not even that old…
I challenge…. quote me one incident where in he resolved to armed struggle during his noble conviction of thirty five years.
It is damn easy to punch few key board keys sitting idle, to get some cheap popularity.
There is absolutely no comparison between sitting ducks and a man of noble conviction.
Who have killed more then 1,500 Pakistani civilians and 1,800 solders in last 2 years? Taliban. So who is the enemy of Pakistan? Taliban
& not to forget that Taliban were not democratically elected representative of people of Afghanistan but were hijackers who occupied the country through guns and rocket launchers and hence they were as illegal as Americans occupation in Afghanistan may be. So please don't give me your twisted logic of Taliban been rightful owners of Afghanistan.
Absolutely I agree, these lunatics do not pose any threat to the West, they actually pose threat to people of Pakistan and Afghanistan and therefore its not West's fight but that of our own.
People of Swat are hijacked by terrorist through force and on point of gun. Those who don't comply meet following fate:
http://buzzvines.com/do-not-watch-if-you-have-weak-heart
So please don't give me your filthy logic of Pakistanis hate Swatis. In fact we love them and want to save them from the occupation of this fanatic cult.
Who made sufi Muhammad mayor of Swat? Where, when and how did he got this right to represent people of Swat? Is he "vali-i-swat" or democratically representative of the people of swat? through which elections? under what law ?
Your so called 'logical argument' is pretty shaky sir.
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I think that you have failed to understand my subject questions ( next time plz refer to them- and post your arguments in line to them) mere lousy accusations won't serve the purpose. First classify Talibans geographically and Historically (let us know on what basis you are up loading your blind hate for them), other wise we won’t be needing any intellectual discussion - any stupid head idiot is sufficient to take your place.
With respect to KILLINGS, I believe you forgot to mention number of casualties form the other side of divide. SIR imagine if you in their place – sitting in a local Jurga meeting – all of a sudden a missile hit s the jurga venue killing majority of people at spot and the one who survives are crippled for life. Don’t you have any right to protest such insane and heinous act, won’t you swear to take revenge of your innocent deads?
Whereas, later stupid people like you give lousy argument that those ‘Stone Age’ people were planning Terrorist Attacks on USA –
Finally WHO gave you the right to decide what is good for them? Have you ever been their and lived a considerable time with them? Do you believe that despite having the vast majority they don’t have the right to demand the revival of their centuries old governing setup ( which was grabbed from them under one pretext or other since 1977 ) ?
Now who is responsible to turn deaf ear to their demands? Do you have any knowledge of their cultural back ground and their customs ? Surely your answer is NO- other wise you would have answered my subject questions four days back.
SIR if you want your arguments to make any sense for readers then spend some time in understanding the whole context otherwise better keep your nose out of it.
'lousy accusations' - What planet are you living at dude? Did they or did they not conducted all those killings through suicide bombings etc in Pakistan murdering thousands of men, women and children? Not to mention public beheading of innocent people in Swat.
BTW this Jurga bomb, where did you get that information from? What is authenticity of this complete BULLSHIT.
What century old government setup? There was a legal government in Afghanistan prior to 1979 who these mad Jihadi militants through support of CIA and ISI toppled. Then the lawful government of Afghanistan was replaced by this fascist dictatorship called Taliban through force of guns and rocket launchers which they received from American buddies. At NO time Taliban were legal representative of Afghan people. They were simple hijackers who abducted an entire country through force. Same as they have abducted Swat now.
And NO I can't keep my nose out while these retarded bastards are set to hijack my society now.
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There are several newspaper and other media reports to satisfy your bullshit. You seemed quite ignorant of regional politics and their aftermath, therefore I believe there is no point in asking you to talk about facts and figures – again and again.No one would like put himself in trouble by Hijacking people like you and your rabbit hole society…. Plant a thinking head
There are several newspaper and other media reports to satisfy your bullshit. You seemed quite ignorant of regional politics and their aftermath, therefore I believe there is no point in asking you to talk about facts and figures – again and again.
No one would like put himself in trouble by Hijacking people like you and your rabbit hole society….
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Mind sharing your so called "several newspapers" links.
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Non sense like Babar are trying there best to distroy Pakistan