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Husbands Rights

Husbands Rights

Husbands Rights

According to a news item, the Law ministry is giving final touches to a draft legislation which will put behing bars the husband's convicted on the charges of harassing their wives.

Members of the "Society for the Prevention of Cruelity to the Husbands" (SPCH) strongly denounce this one sided legislation without protecting the rights of the husbands who are being harassed and tortured by their wives on daily basis.

Islamabad

Pakistan Observer (13th of June, 2008)

Dr. Irfan Zafar

irfanzafar@msn.com

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really??? never heard of harassed husbands...would u care to give an example or two???

The husbands who are beaten or harrassed by their wives, don't deserve to be called men. They shud put on bangles and LEHNGAS like women. 

RizSh

but no such men exist....even if they do they would b in minority of about 0.01%....its just mentality of PTV comedians which has blown this rare phenomenon out of proportion of its actual size....(i recall that 50/50 show based on meek husbands)

you cannot underestimate the emotional abuse that a lot of women do to their husbands. constant nagging and irrational behavior of some wives drive husbands to take extreme steps like hurting her physcially. and once he does that nobody will look at the wives faults. the law and people will only see the bruises of the wife. obviosuly there is no justifcation for physcial abuse but it happens in the heat of the moment.

there is a difference between a husband who beats his wife as punishment and regularly and systematically and a husband who hurts his wife during a fight in the heat of the moment on a isolated occasion. 

so in that sense wives abuse husbands too . in our patriarchical society men control the women and even get away with physical abuse. but in the west it automatically becomes a disadvantage to men. so there should be apprpriate laws to protect husbands from the emotional abuse of wives.

Wives are a liability anyways! :)

unlimited liability at that

  I think the law ministry is doing the right thing but i also agree that some wives also harras and torture there husbands.So there should be some laws against such dangerous , witch like women . LOL

 

Lagta hay aap ky Begum Sahiba bhy aapky pitaee kartey hain.

RizSh

Nahin  G Rizwan Shiekh sahaba   i am single not married . LOL

              Future planning yeh na hoo k  .......UMmmm

 

If true, this is the best piece of legislation ever introduced in Pakistan

There is something also called "Emotional Abuse". It is not physical but damages one's soul forever.

Hmmm...this is rather different...odd...

No, not odd. Ask the one's who suffer

what a joke!!! these ppl can only make issues more complicated than they actually are. emotional abuse by women n all yeah, but we are missing the very basic element of the muslim male psyche i.e. WOMEN are their property. given to them by GOD!! they have all the right to abuse em, beat em n what not (remember wa-la yadzriboon?)

mullahs have endowed these pea-brained Mijazi Khudas with all the rights over women. y dont we call for equal status marital laws? y the dual criteria of 7th century still masquerading as The LAW in 21st century?

 

~ aah becharon ke aasaab pe aurat hai sawar :)

I also agree with edgewalker. There must be equality in men and women. The men don't care of wht they do themselves, but whn woman start responding them in the same way, they start crying. Indeed, becharon ke aasaab pe aurat hai sawar.

RizSh

Fine, Dr Irfan - do enlighten me ;)

@hawaomar

What particular question is in your mind?

Well, you said it's not odd to the ones who suffer so I beseech what the situation was like for you? How do u allow ur self to 'abused'? What motivates women to 'abuse' their husbands...?

good question by Hawa . I would like to add few more lines to her question.

         What motivates women to abuse there husband and what motivates men to abuse their wives ?

           I think we need to do another survey on that .

It's not related to my life.

Physical abuse is something common. Done mostly by men.

Emotional Abuse: Done by both men and women. You start torturing the partner with things which hurt him/her more. You play with the partners emotions and try to dominate. In the process they try to inflict mental agonies on the other persons mind. It also involves killing one's identity, one's values and ones wishes. You reach a point when you see no hope in life. Nothing to live for. Though there is no physical abuse in this, the trauma of emotional abuse simply shatters one's mind and making him/her to live a life of a "living dead". Some also tend to give it a cosmatic name of adjustment, compromise etc etc, but in reality if you look deeply into it, it is the systamatic rape of your dreams and your identity. You want to learn more ?

Sure :)

Moreover, why does the 'victim' make do with such conduct of his/her counterpart?

Circumstances. Vary for each individual.

Aah the Über Intellectual exchange. i so love it! the post was about a piece of legislation that is being obstructed by the mullahs. cos in their sharia, woman have no say. y aint any one asking y such vehement opposition from the mullah brigade?

Take the Hudood Ordinance ammendment. how dumb n silly is that a gang raped women has to bring forth 4 male witnesses that she was raped (zina bil-jabr) or else she's guilty of adultery!!! ADULTERY (Zina Bil-raza)!!! for goodness sake!!! and must be stoned to death if married (no where in quran, mullahs invention) or 100 lashes.

Now that was about Zina bil-jabr, which is RAPE. but what about MARITAL RAPE? does anyone know that a women is always obliged to please her husband (master)? even if she is sick (except for the periods)? or what if she just doesnt feel like it at that particular time. can a women say NO to her hubby in mullah's sharia? NOT AT ALL! that's sinful on part of the woman. she's obliged by law to entertain her MIJAZI KHUDA (recall the damn tradition about the woman who'll enter the heaven first, guiding Fatima's camel). and then that mijazi khuda also has the option to get more wives and countless laundis (female slaves) and have sin-free... umm..FUN!

Then there's this clear bias in the divorce process. dual criteria again..

and what about the social insensitivity that we see around? the absolutely apathetic attitude towards domestic violence. has anyone heard any MALE complaining domestic violence in his neighborhood? domestic violence happens everywhere, i know, but here im trying to highlight the mentality of the masses that receive their ISLAM from the Mullah. and the Mullah has given them all the rights over women. dats the problem of the Middle and Lower class males. the gender superiority is so deeply ingrained in their minds (like many other false conceptions) that they dont see anything wrong in their behaviour at all. It's Shariatic after all ;) forget about the devastating effect on children in violent/abusive households. Child rights?? what???

There are scores of issues that affect families of the real mass (mis-informed and brainwashed) in muslim societies. The whole body of Muslim Family Laws needs to be overhauled and brought in line with the modern common civil law.

some links;
http://survivorofpolygamy-safa.blogspot.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spousal_rape

~ Sapere Aude

I 110% agree with edgewalker. These are the bitter realities of our male dominated society, where male shuavinism is as common as a daily routine. None other highlighted these deep thoughts and analysis. Excellent, edgewalker.

RizSh

I think there is nothing wrong with the Islamic Law. Its just it's wrong interpretation by the mullahs.

so convenient. tell me Irfan, what about;

1. Apostasy (wa-man badla deenihi faqtulu)?

2. Slavery

3. Polygymy

three issues (of MANY) l can quickly recall. accepted, authorized and validated by all Fiqh's/Masaliks/Mazdahibs 

 

~ Sapere Aude

I do not know in depth about them so it will be unfair to comment on these. May be some member who has read Islamic law can enlighten us.

ah well Irfan, then one should abstain from passing such sweeping generalizing statements as "there is nothing wrong with the Islamic Law". BTW 99% of Pop-Islam is mullahs invention. No, there's no exaggeration in this statement everyone.  

You see, this is the problem of the moderate position. It makes the
case difficult for us Freethinkers. The apologists' approach to
justifying religion as innocent and the extremists responsible isn’t
helping. NO! it’s the religion responsible for breeding extremists.
They are few and the moderates far outnumber them, but they are the
most active and most vocal. moderates cant ever dare confronting them
on many core issues like the Eschaton or the blasphemy or the
creationism and anthropomorphism in Quran. Literal acceptance of
medieval texts will always result in extremism! i find it painfully ironic and cant agree less with Dr.Tawfik Hamid when he calls "Moderates" The "Passive Terrorists".

All religions are in direct conflict with today’s civil, democratic
values. We all know, religious ideal is always a Theocracy, a
Totalitarian regime. This is what they are after. Absolute adherence to
a certain religious doctrine! This is what they are working on in the
US, Israel and the Islamic world every where (besides eagerly looking forward to The End Times. Duhhh.

It is time that religion be relegated out of the public sphere.
Religious parties should be banned from contesting elections (only
wishful thinking I know ) and religious interference with education must be halted immediately.

7th century dogmas are no more acceptable. That system of non-thinking called Religion has outlived its usefulness and must GO!

“An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come.” — Victor Hugo

 

~ Sapere Aude