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HSBC Party in Karachi 2

HSBC Party in Karachi 2

HSBC Party in Karachi-2

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Dr.Irfan Zafar

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It was a great party..u  missed it boy!

is this a mujra ? or is it some sort of 'exotic dance' ?

looks like an erotic belly dance to me.

is this allowed in pakistan??? i mean what about the families who were present at the party? such dances are clearly aimed at seducing men.

She is a russian belly dancer. They really dance well. Looking at it from cultural aspects, they have perfected the art of oriental dancing and keeping it alive.

was the dance erotic?

i bet this dancer will also sleep with some big shots during her stay here. most belly dancers specially local ones are part time call-girls who demand high prices.

Aleem,

"who demand high prices."

You sound quite rueful

  I agree with Aleem Shiekh its true they all have side business of prostitution and they demand high prices from the rich customers .

 

 

well well doc's efforts should b acknowledged...he covered the news from every possible "angle"...only an aerial view is missing...n admin u should seriously consider making available the option of uploading an entire photo album on a blog...imagine the waste of precious time of our honourable doc....congRATs,once again on such a brilliant coverage of an important event....

do you have any doubts that it is whorings? dont you know deep down why men love such dances. stop pretending to be a broad minded modern person and act as if nothing is wrong with it. you know it is whorings. this woman is a prostitute.

who will marry this courtesan, this jezebelle, this this . her life is ruined. if she gives birth what will her child think that her mother was the subject of hundreds of mens' lust. that she was a sex object for them. how will that son feel. imagine his son with his frineds and his moms video of naked dance come up on tv. imagine the plight of it child.

 

God, that was a weak attempt at sarcasm bro....

i hate such channels n media ppl who bring such news out in public....This is not Pakistan...just like suicidebombers these dancers are not representatives of our nation..(she isn't even Pakistani for God sake.)These activities are confined to a small minority....The majority of our ppl are simple souls burdened by inflation, saddened by political gimmicks whose favourite pastime is cursing mush n the likes of him...but when such events are given coverage, the enemies of Pakistan make a mountain of a molehill out of it....they laugh at us,our two-nation ideology, our very reason of coming into being....if we can't put an end to these unIslamic practices atleast we shouldn't spread them far n wide..ultimately its us who suffer...i m sick of ppl laughing at my chaddar n questioning me abt my beliefs....

i know many expats just visit these blogs to get a feel abt Pakistan,,imagine the impression they take with them after seeing all this...

I second Pinky on this.

We know such events were happening around but were not covered in the media and most of what went on was hidden from the general public. Recently it has become more public and I wonder if people out there realize the implications of all this coverage. What are exposing our younger generation to?

 

HSBC should consider our cultural variables..In Business managment they do say the local culture should not be violated when going to over seas market..Telenor in its earliar days paid heavy price with its image of culture invaders..

There are many private parties who are more valgure than this one(especially which take place in the lower floor halls of ALhamra)..Pinki is riht we shouldnot make it public

@ mianjee, pinky, west coast easgle

haan haan kyun nahi... aisi parties were always happening but why should we cover them? afterall we as educated upper middle citizens of our country (who have seen the world and tasted all the pleasures or atleast are aware of them) should keep the poor illiterate frustrated masses in the dark and tell them good things about religion only. we should have our glass of wine but at the same time make an effort to build a false image of our culture and heritage and a create a false niche of religiousity so that the poor illiterates can remain comfortable in it.

i say why not cover such events?? bcos the conservatives, the poor and illiterate react badly?? so what... they should also be made aware about the pleasures of the world. let them choose for themselves which path they wanna take. create proper channels for them to have their glass of cheap rum. let them visit brothels and police dont catch them and take bribe from them. organize more cheap mujra shows so they can also watch and enjoy.... dont worry about them youse......their eyes wont melt after seeing this VULGURITY !!! tell them if its agains their morals then dont watch it simply. let them drink SHARAAB and police dont confiscate their SHARAAB and make it news on tv "aaj layari kay ilaakay say police nay 12 botlain sharaab ki baramad kar leen" let them play JOOAA gambling.... infact more avenues for it. afterall the rich also play it. 

aakhir yeh NAIMATAIN Allah mian nay khaali ameer aur parhay likhay liberal lgogon kay liye hi to nahi banai na? sab ko in NAIMATON say mazza lanay do. religion khaali ghareeb aur unparh kay liye to nahi na. and the hypocricy of these educated liberals is that they feel THREATENED when such things are made public... bcos you people want the poor to carry the burden of propagating religion and your culture while at the same time you wanna live your life with your own rules. these handful of elites want to enjoy the pleasures but on purpose want the poor to remain deprived of them and want to be in a position to judge them wrong when they try to have their glass of wine.

so make these things public... show it on GEO news. make liberty for everyone and organize such shows for poor also. but rich dont want that to happen.

 CONTD....

 the only reason the poor illiterates and lower classes are NOT doing these things is not because of their lurve for religion and morals. its because they dont have the CHOICE to do that in the first place !!!.

 they will react badly if you tell them about these parties not because its against their morals and religion but because they have been tricked into believing that we are an ISLAMIC state such things are CRIME and FORBIDDEN and outlawed. that police catches you and  you can become publicly defamed. they will react because they were tricked into believing that these things happen only in amreeka. if given a choice half of pakistanis will be living  AMORAL lives and partaking in all these pleasures.

but again as i said the educated rich the liberal and the elite dont want that to happen for some reason. maybe bcos it gives them a sense of identitiy of relgion and culture. maybe because its their ego....that having access to all these pleasures while majotiy is deprived gives you an ego boost. i mean if im drinking wines then i probably wont be comfortable with the idea that my driver SHARFU KAKA is also drinking !! maybe. or if im having sex with high end call girls then i wont be comfortable with the idea that my naukar ABDUL is also doing stuff. i dont know maybe the rich have this mentality

lastly i want to ask a question to everyone here.
would it effect you if the PLEASURES are made available to the masses???  what would you prefer should these pleasures be available only to the elite? obviosuly we are a "MUSLIM" country but why not the rich and elite carry that burden.... i mean they have more time more money and more EDUCATION to carry on the traditions and culture and religion. and secondly everyone is an individual the rich are doing it already bcos he is an individual and made a choice for him/her self... so let the poor also decide for himself.... do you feel threatened if the poor masses are given the CHOICE ???  afterall each poor is an individual. let him choose if he wants to indulge in HARAM things. nothing is gonna happen to your morals and religion..lol.

UFO:

It is your false assumption that people avoid vulger things because they dont afford...Do you think some one cant afford 600's vodka half bottle?  Or some one cant afford 800 ticket of Mujra program ??

I know the billionair industrialists of lahore who dont go for this kind of stuff..For example US apparel's owners who are practicing muslims..many others.

if you think this lucher stuff is ENJOYMENT then please 1st define this term...becasue a few people also feel PLEASURE in doing RAPE. I hope tommorow you willnot say that this PLEASURE should be allowed.

I am from middle class and I am proud of the norms and values of middle class. This is the class who establishes revolutions..Their kids dont born with silver spoon in mouth but they earn bronz for many mouths

 

Do you think some one cant afford 600's vodka half bottle?  Or some one cant afford 800 ticket of Mujra program ??

yes its still expensive for lower classes. and secondly its not just the cost... its the stigma that the society attaches to these activites. these activites are only run underground and are not in the mainstream. there is a threat of moral policing always. most people wont be willing to take these risks.

but the rich liberal have proper channels to do all the HARAM activities. when they do things there is no stigma attached to it. in other words when they do it ....its all good.

a respectable 'uncle' can go to his golf club and drink wine. then he can go to a 5 star hotel and watch an exotic belly dance and still maintain his respect and everythings all good.  but an ordinary middle aged man cannot go to mujra and drink cheap murree vodka with his friends and come back to his neighbourhood respectably. even the so called liberals will look down upon him

similary a goody good boy of a rich family can go to the best school go to dance parties and have sex with girls in proper channel ways. then go abroad and have sex with goriyan and go to strip clubs too and come back all clean.

but when a lower middle class boy wants to get his sexual frustrations out by visiting a cheap hooker..... everyone will look down upon him....including the same liberal elites who do it all.

 

 

In our class we also have people who do this kind of stuff. You must had seen news of people got expired by taking poisonous Desi Sharab.. In teh Mujra programs a large number of people do belong to this class as well.The have nots have made Nurgis group etc

 

UFO :

I agree to your opinion that rich have every thing right but for poor it is taboo.

The vulgers are in every class so there is nothign which can stop them except their internal locus of control which is very much related to religon, ethics and morality.

 

Remember: The only people who do not have morals (generally speaking) are the Rich and the Poor. Rich because of status, poor because of poverty. Morality is mostly the issue of the middle class.

 Poor people would enter heaven 50,000 years before rich thats why? So let them live a bad life here and a better life in the here after and don't allow them to drink alchohol and enjoy desi mujra coz they may close the door s
of heaven for them and may open the doors of hell firerz for them.

 

 

Who knows....A pros might enter heaven before a religious scholar..Who knows sir's. Your one good deed can counter hundreds of bad acts.

Doc : it depends upon the nature of crime and sin.
If it is about God's Right then allah is Raheem to forgive them But if some one violated human rights(haqooq Ul Ibad) then how Allah can overlook the opressed one and allow a person to go in heaven with out paying for his/her violations.

For exampel if i occupied a land of a poor who couldnt get it back here due to scarce resources and he hoped he will get the compensation at the judgement day...Will allah forgive becasue of my virtues and HIS rehmat by overlooking that poor? Nope becasue He is justice and believes in justice

It will be the decision of the God, not what we think is right or wrong

Well who else had arranged the party is a big idiot. If he want to dance with the girls and want to sleep with them he sould do it his self not to arrange the dance parties with the families and publish it to the new paper?? What the hell is this ... If you want to have the dance parites and you are of so broad mind then why did you hire the russian girls you can bring your sister and mother here so that they should enjoy it and as mr UFO

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@ mianjee, pinky, west coast easgle

said that this is not affordable by a poor and rich can afford it so let me clear it you that i am also from a rich family even i can buy daiy basis tickets but i refused tto do it cause of my own nature..

ANd you dont need to be so happy the death is not so far there are so many grave yard you can see the persons buried over there were once in this world and you are here and will be there your future is not a big dance parties organized but your future will in a grave .. may be after 10 20 30 years ???

but remmeber in 200 century your life is going to exprise you will not see 3000 or 3008 is it ok next time dont put fingers on poor and others who dont do these kind of things ..... is it ok to you mr ...

 

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