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Are we really allowed to shorten prayers when on a journey?
submitted 3 months 10 days 22 hours ago by: Khalifah : 60 commentsQuran 4:101 states:
When ye travel through the Earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers,
FOR FEAR THE UNBELIEVERS MAY ATTACK YOU:
For the unbelievers are unto you open enemies
Apparently this injuction has been nullified by a 'Hadith' wherein we are allowed to shorten prayers if we are on a journey, period.
This also disregards a subsequent injunction in 4:103
...BUT WHEN YE ARE FREE FROM DANGER, set up regular prayers; for such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.
This verse clearly states that whether you are on a journey or not, if the real or perceived danger is passed, then one needs to offer the full prayers.
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There is no such thing as travel prayers :)
http://think-islam.blogspot.com/2008/02/travel-prayers-salat-qasr.html
not at all
Exactly my point :)
There are a tremendous number of myths we have grown up with so much so that it's hard to seperate fact from fiction
And the worst thing about it.. we 'lovingly' attribute it to Prophet Muhammad although he did not do any such thing. There is this Quran with me at home and whenever I pass this verse.. I smile becasue in the 'tafseer' its written ('although thi verse was for wartime but then Prophet Muhammad gave the travel prayer as a 'gift' to muslim!)
Unfortunately Prophet Muhammad was not allowed at all to do 'anything' apart from delivering the message as it is and be a forewarner and bearer of good news.
10:15 - ... "Bring us a reading other than this, or change
this," Say: "It is not for me, of my own accord, to change it: I follow naught
but what is revealed unto me: if I were to disobey my Lord, I should myself fear the
penalty of a Great Day (to come)."
jazakAllah Postman
but what can i do? I had offered so many travel prayers with pleasure :(
Don't offer them more. And with the 'pleasure' that you are following what God stated not what humans made up.
Ok I ll do
Some thimes I think of what type of Muslim I have become....ignorant of the basic knowledge. The worst thing is that I dont bother to get it.
You people are only considering the Quaranic Verses while ignoring Hadiths. I think you must research the Hadiths which will define that the way of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) for offering prayers during travels. The Hadith is the description of Quran. Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) offered Qasar whenever they travelled.
So basically if Quran says one thing and hadith another - we should drop Quran. right Noor?
Cheers...Lovely...:)
Excuse me! I dont think Quran and Ahadieth differ with each other. It might be possible that we could not understand the logic behind. But yes this matter is needed to be researched for its true meaning.
Postman! Can I have the name of the author of your Tafseer-e-Quran, so that I can also try to understand its tafseer in detail. And also mention the book of Ahadeith. I do have Bukhari Shareef at home, I will definitely consult it too
unfortunately they do Sophisticated :) the example above is the illustration.
I do not have any tafseer, I just read the verses and translation.
this is the point where's the problem arise. Whenever, anyone try to give the solution only from Quran then he definitly can give the wrong answer. Quran is the word of Allah Almighty, Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) taught his followers the actual meaning of Quran. We cannot describe or understand Quran if we don't consult Hadith.
Secondly, Quran and Haidth never conflicts.My point here is that we cannot provide solution 2 the problem only by Quranic Translation/Tafseer. We must gather all hadiths and Verses of Quran which are related to Namaz-e-Qasar then we can decide what the real solution is.
Dear Noor. Kindly tell me what is God telling you in verse 4:101.
See! you cannot define the solution of Qasar Namaz only by refering the Quran. You must come up with all Hadiths and All Quranic Verses to define what the real solution is. Then definitely, no muslim can deny. A small amount of knowledge always dangerous, it can divert you from real path.
What is God telling you in verse 4:101 Noor! answer that please! its a very simple verse!
Noor
Unfortunately, there are conflicts between Quran & Hadith!
and from where have you read these? on internet? Was it a reliable source?
I took print of your references, would consult it soon InshaAllah
First read yourself and then perhaps consult. its Sura Nisaa. 4:101. First read what Gos is telling you to do. Analyse yourself. Think!
I would take it as first consult the source and then analyze yourself
We are not saying that you are wrong but we would have to verify naa
First at least read yourself! Think from your side at least!
I am not concerned here whether I am right or wrong! I am only telling you read what is stated there! God could be right for once than an Alim right?!
tauba astaghfar! who is saying that Alims are more knowledge able than...tauba tauba.....you are taking the discussion to another direction
Allah has said Himself "Verify the information first, then spread it". It is good that you have verified but it is now my duty to verify it and then starting practicing it and spreading it... that's all
No I did not mean it that way :)
I just think that we leave the thinking part to someone else when religion is concerned. I aint no alim or preacher.
why thinking is left to some else? this is our religion and we should think of it firstly then anyone else
But what about the detailed concept of 14 days and 40 kms. That you are away from home for less than 14 days and that the distance is more than 40 kms. How does that fit into this thing, if the concession is granted only for war times ?
A little confused there.
And also about the fact that for the daughter, prayer at father's home (if in another city) will be considered as QASR and probably not for the SON.
Have always been skeptical about all of this, as there are Molanas who even say that it's AFZAL (better) to use the concessions God has allowed for rather than saying the full prayer.
There is no travel prayer Amer! 14 days and 40 kms are just hypothecations. Read the verse?
I would not say any thing until I consult the both sources but with reference to Amir's point of offering Qasr prayer at parents' home by the married daughter, my sis has consulted to an Islamic Scholar who advised her to offer complete prayer at parents' home even if she is not goin to stay more than 15 days because both (her parents' and her husband's) homes are considered her own
You r rite. One Islamic Scholar also proposed the same solution to my brother.
@PostMan,Khalifah
The verse you quoted is true but you cannot conclude only on this verse. Did you consult Hadith?
excuse me? if you say its true then why consult anyone for that matter for conclusion?
I don't know much about Islam but as far as i know only Quran cannot describe the whole Islam and only Hadith cannot describe the whole islam. Both are must to find solution.
According to my knowledge, Whenever Sahaba found any problem after Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) , they consulted Quran and the life routine of Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W). In Today's era, we can find about the life routine of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) from Hadith which is the description of Quran.
So why not we should follow the same path.
"I don't know much about Islam but as far as i know only Quran cannot
describe the whole Islam and only Hadith cannot describe the whole
islam. Both are must to find solution."
Zeb:
Please don't make yourself confuse in-between two matters.
Al-Quran is the Devine Book. Quran has described whole Islam and Quran is the 'ONLY' source from where you can have true 'undoubted' information.
You are going out of the way...
anyways!
Just tell me about the one verse which describe how many rakat's are in five prayers. What will you recite in each prayer? Just Give me one example.If u r unable to give me a reference then you will definitely consult the Hadith.
6:114 - Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto
you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime)
know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the
waverers.
77:50 - In what statement, after this (Quran), will they believe?
:)
if you don't want to consult hadith then no matter wat any one said, you will not accept. I feel sorry for you. :(
take a chill pill. :)
At one hand I have Zeb telling me
"I don't know much about Islam but as far as i know only Quran cannot
describe the whole Islam and only Hadith cannot describe the whole
islam. Both are must to find solution."
and on the other hand I have God telling me that Quran is fully detailed and no doubt in it. 6:114 ...when He it is Who hath
sent unto you the Book, explained in detail."...
So shall I listen to God or to Zeb? :) damn!
Umm...Listen to both. Decide who you are going to ignore! :)
77:50 - In what statement, after this (Quran), will they believe?
who will decide "after this" mean Quran? You ? Me ? Offcourse not. The only source is Hadith.
(6:114) O Rasool ask them: “Do you want that I should seek an authority other than Allah when He has sent down for you the Book which states everything clearly. Those who have accepted this Book have understood clearly that it has been revealed by Allah and is based upon the truth. There is no need to dispute with them.”
(77:50) We have explained all these matters in very clear terms. Despite this, these people do not profess Eiman. Then ask them what other explanation they require for them to profess Eiman on the truthfulness of Our Laws?
PostMan: This is how it may be presented with little difference (just to understand the soul of the sentance).
Subhanallah!
Allah itna acha bolte hain k imaan laane ko ji chahta hai. :)
Hats off to Khalifah, really constructive & thought provoking Buzz.
First thing first: “Research” is a must if one wants to find the right path. We should consult to all available resources to reach the conclusion.
I have visited several websites to analyze the situation narrated in the subject verses. Most of them are saying almost same thing with little difference in words.
But the last ‘Tolu-e-Islam’ seems different to me. I feel that they always try to be logical in all matters. One thing here, they don’t translate Quran as they say that it is not possible to translate. Arabic is a vast language, they (Arabs) use different words for one thing in different situations. So the meaning could become totally different.
http://www.harunyahya.com/Quran_translation/Quran_translation4.php
4:101. When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
4:103. When ye pass (Congregational) prayers, celebrate Allah.s praises, standing, sitting down, or lying down on your sides; but when ye are free from danger, set up Regular Prayers: For such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html
004.101
YUSUFALI: When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
PICKTHAL: And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you.
SHAKIR: And when you journey in the earth, there is no blame on you if you shorten the prayer, if you fear that those who disbelieve will cause you distress, surely the unbelievers are your open enemy.
004.103
YUSUFALI: When ye pass (Congregational) prayers, celebrate Allah's praises, standing, sitting down, or lying down on your sides; but when ye are free from danger, set up Regular Prayers: For such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.
PICKTHAL: When ye have performed the act of worship, remember Allah, standing, sitting and reclining. And when ye are in safety, observe proper worship. Worship at fixed times hath been enjoined on the believers.
SHAKIR: Then when you have finished the prayer, remember Allah standing and sitting and reclining; but when you are secure (from danger) keep up prayer; surely prayer is a timed ordinance for the believers.
http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/QURAN/4.htm
101. When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
103. When ye pass (Congregational) prayers, celebrate Allah.s praises, standing, sitting down, or lying down on your sides; but when ye are free from danger, set up Regular Prayers: For such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.
http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/quran4.html
004.101 When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers may attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
004.103 When ye pass (Congregational) prayers, celebrate God's praises, standing, sitting down, or lying down on your sides; but when ye are free from danger, set up Regular Prayers: For such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.
http://www.muslim.org/english-quran/quran.htm
101: And when you journey in the earth, there is no blame on you if you shorten the prayer, if you fear that those who disbelieve will give you trouble. Surely the disbelievers are an open enemy to you.
103: So when you have ?nished the prayer, remember Allåh standing and sitting and reclining. But when you are secure (from danger) keep up (regular) prayer. Prayer indeed has been enjoined on the believers at ?xed times.
http://www.wright-house.com/religions/islam/Quran/4-women.php
101. When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
103. When ye pass (Congregational) prayers, celebrate Allah.s praises, standing, sitting down, or lying down on your sides; but when ye are free from danger, set up Regular Prayers: For such prayers are enjoined on believers at stated times.
http://www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/expo/expo_004.htm
(4:101) When you set out on a journey and apprehend danger from your enemy, there is no harm if you shorten your Sal’at. The K’afireen are your open enemies.
(4:103) When you have finished Sal’at in this state of insecurity, you should be mindful of the Code of Divine Law at all times – sitting, standing or lying down. When you feel secure, perform your Sal’at in the regular way. It should be noted that assemblies of Sal’at are held at appointed times and participation in these assemblies is obligatory.
Aur ALLAH ki madad a pohanchi! :)
(17:36) Wala taqfu ma laysa laka bihi AAilmun inna alssamAAa waalbasara waalfu-ada kullu ola-ika kana AAanhu mas-oolan
Do not follow that you have knowledge not. Remember, your hearing, seeing and faculty of thinking, all will be questioned of it.
Subhanallah!
You are going out of the way...
anyways!
Just tell me about the one verse of Quran which describe how many rakat's are
in five prayers. What will you recite in each prayer? Just Give me one
example. If u r unable to give me a reference from Quran then you should accept this that hadith is the source.
1. Quran is word of Allah. TRUE
2. No doubt Quran is complete. TRUE
3. Only messenger of ALLAH (Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)) can explain the Quran.TRUE
4. Acts of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) explains the meaning of Quran. TRUE
5. Acts of Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W) are recorded in Hadith.TRUE
Conclusion: if statement 1 to 5 is true then we can easily conclude Hadith is the description of Quran.
So to findout any thing about Namaz-e-Qasar , we should consult Quran and Hadith.
Its not your fault brother. We all are kept so ignorant about our religion that such things can be said. I'll answer your questions.
Zeb: "Just tell me about the one verse of Quran which describe how many rakat's are
in five prayers. What will you recite in each prayer? Just Give me one
example."
See. When God says Quran is fully detailed.. then it must be. But then where is your question addressed in Quran? Is God joking with us? because number of rakaat of prayers are not mentioned in Quran!
Prayers and other religious duties (Zakat, Fasting) were not given to Prophet Muhammad - they were given to Prophet Abraham. People of Mecca were 'already' doing all these things but were 'mushrik' (polytheists). There was no need to tell them 'how many rakaats are there in prayers!'. Check my blog here for further reference...
http://think-islam.blogspot.com/2007/10/5-pillars-of-islam.html
Now your other questions...
1. Quran is word of Allah. TRUE (you are right)
2. No doubt Quran is complete. TRUE (right there too!)
3. Only messenger of ALLAH (Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)) can explain the Quran. TRUE.
No its FALSE!
Prophet Muhammad was not allowed to 'explain' Quran! Its really astonishing what God states in Quran and according to Him, Prophet (every prophet for that matters) is just a deliverer of Message!
75:16 - Move not thy tongue concerning the (Qur'an) to make haste therewith
75:17 - It is for Us to collect it and to promulgate it:
75:18 - But when We have promulgated it, follow thou its recital
75:19 - Nay more, it is for Us to explain it
4. Acts of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) explains the meaning of Quran. FALSE!
Prophet Muhammad was a human being! He committed mistakes as evidenced in Quran! For example
66:1 - O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to
thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
80:01 - (The Prophet) frowned and turned away,
80:02 - Because there came to him the blind man (interrupting).
All of these are human elements. Prophet Muhammad was not an angel rather a human being. Thats why one should never idolize humans!
Respect theProphet because he was the last of Prophet, he was given a supreme message! But seek guidance from Allah and not humans!
5. Acts of Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W) are recorded in Hadith.TRUE. (questionable)
There are an estimated 400,000 hadiths in Sahih Bukhari. 4000 are considered 'authentic'. That represents a mere 1%.
Yes, there is no verse regarding Rakahs of prayers.
Let me clear one important thing first. I am not trying to say that Entire Hadith collection is conflicting with Quran. 'Ahadiths' are neither sayings of Almighty nor came from Allah. They are the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) & entire collection is written by Humans. Correct me if I am wrong, first collection of 'Hadith' was produced after almost 100 years of Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) departure. Please consider 100 YEARS! The point is that there are chances of mistakes as Humans are producing/collecting, not Almighty.
So the simple & logical solution to me is 'conduct research'. Take the 'Hadith', analyze it with the 'Quran', if it is taking you to the opposite direction; you should opt 'Al-Quran'. I am very clear on this.
STATEMENTS 1 to 5 are not 100% true.
3. Only messenger of Allah (Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W)) can explain the Quran. TRUE
- Yes, HE has explained it in the maximum capacity possible, to the humanity. Not only explained, HE has proved its uniqueness & truthiness practically by establishing and implementing the ISLAMIC SYSTEM. HE has accomplished HIS part and rest was left for the humanity. It was our (Muslim Ummah!) duty to maintain that glorified System, but we couldn't!
5. Acts of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) are recorded in Hadith. TRUE
- not 100% TRUE. There are such examples in 'Hadith Books', which conflicts not only with the Quran but with the Characteristics of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)!
In the case of the verses quoted there is no ambiguity that would require clarification from hadith. It is quite clearly stated that the ONLY time prayers can be shortened is when the person offering prayers fears for his life.
But those who disobey Allah and His Messenger and transgress His limits will be admitted to a Fire, to abide therein: And they shall have a humiliating punishment.
(Translations of the Qur'an,004.014)
O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end.
(Translations of the Qur'an,004.059)
And when it is said unto them: Come unto that which Allah hath revealed and unto the messenger, thou seest the hypocrites turn from thee with aversion.
(Translations of the Qur'an, 004.061)
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Muslim and the collectors of Sunan recorded this Hadith. At-Tirmidhi said, "Hasan Sahih''. `Ali bin Al-Madini said, "This Hadith is Hasan Sahih from the narration of `Umar, and it is not preserved by any other route besides this one, and its narrators are all known.'' Abu Bakr Ibn Abi Shaybah recorded that Abu Hanzalah Al-Hadha' said, "I asked Ibn `Umar about the Qasr prayer and he said, `It consists of two Rak`ahs.' I said, what about Allah's statement,
(if you fear that the disbelievers may put you in trial (attack you),) `We are safe now.' He said, `This is the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah .'''. Al-Bukhari recorded that Anas said, "We went out with the Messenger of Allah from Al-Madinah to Makkah; he used to pray two Rak`ahs until we went back to Al-Madinah.'' When he was asked how long they remained in Makkah, he said, "We remained in Makkah for ten days.'' This was recorded by the Group. Imam Ahmad recorded that Harithah bin Wahb Al-Khuza`i said, "I prayed behind the Prophet for the Zuhr and `Asr prayers in Mina, when the people were numerous and very safe, and he prayed two Rak`ahs.'' This was recorded by the Group, with the exception of Ibn Majah. Al-Bukhari's narration of this Hadith reads, "The Prophet led us in the prayer at Mina during the peace period by offering two Rak`ahs. ''
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The Fear prayer has different forms, for the enemy is sometimes in the direction of the Qiblah and sometimes in another direction. The Fear prayer consists sometimes of four Rak`ahs, three Rak`ahs, as for Maghrib, and sometimes two Rak`ah like Fajr and prayer during travel. The Fear prayer is sometimes prayed in congregation, but when the battle is raging, congregational prayer may not be possible. In this case, they pray each by himself, facing the Qiblah or otherwise, riding or on foot. In this situation, they are allowed to walk and fight, all the while performing the acts of the prayer. Some scholars said that in the latter case, they pray only one Rak`ah, for Ibn `Abbas narrated, "By the words of your Prophet , Allah has ordained the prayer of four Rak`ah while residing, two Rak`ah during travel, and one Rak`ah during fear.'' Muslim, Abu Dawud, An-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah recorded it. This is also the view of Ahmad bin Hanbal. Al-Mundhiri said, "This is the saying of `Ata', Jabir, Al-Hasan, Mujahid, Al-Hakam, Qatadah and Hammad; and Tawus and Ad-Dahhak also prefered it.'' Abu `Asim Al-`Abadi mentioned that Muhammad bin Nasr Al-Marwazi said the Fajr prayer also becomes one Rak`ah during fear. This is also the opinion of Ibn Hazm. Ishaq bin Rahwayh said, "When a battle is raging, one Rak`ah during which you nod your head is sufficient for you. If you are unable, then one prostration is sufficient, because the prostration is remembrance of Allah.''
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=4&tid=12129
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80:01 - (The Prophet) frowned and turned away,
he Prophet being reprimanded because He frowned at a Weak Man
More than one of the scholars of Tafsir mentioned that one day the Messenger of Allah was addressing one of the great leaders of the Quraysh while hoping that he would accept Islam. While he was speaking in direct conversation with him, Ibn Umm Maktum came to him, and he was of those who had accepted Islam in its earliest days. He (Ibn Umm Maktum) then began asking the Messenger of Allah about something, urgently beseeching him. The Prophet hoped that the man would be guided, so he asked Ibn Umm Maktum to wait for a moment so he could complete his conversation. He frowned in the face of Ibn Umm Maktum and turned away from him in order to face the other man. Thus, Allah revealed,
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=80&tid=57057
66:1 - O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to
thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Al-Bukhari recorded that `Ubayd bin `Umayr said that he heard `A'ishah claiming that Allah's Messenger used to stay for a period in the house of Zaynab bint Jahsh and drink honey in her house. (She said) "Hafsah and I decided that when the Prophet entered upon either of us, we would say, `I smell Maghafir on you. Have you eaten Maghafir' When he entered upon one of us, she said that to him. He replied (to her),
(No, but I drank honey in the house of Zaynab bint Jahsh, and I will never drink it again.)'' Then the following was revealed;
(O Prophet! Why do you fobid that which Allah has allowed to you) up to,
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=66&tid=54321